I'm a bit of a drapery snob, having had drapes custom made for my last two houses. I've gone from casual country drapes to overly fancy and fussy silk drapery with lots of detail.All custom.In my recent updates to my decor, I wanted a relaxed linen look, but with just that touch of formality a pinched pleat adds.After reading the reviews on these, I thought they'd do the trick, saving me a trip to the Los Angeles fabric district to pick out the drapery fabric and the bother with custom design.So glad I ordered these!I got Beige White with the blackout liner to add body and substance, eventhough my dining area doesn't need blackout.These are so well made! Surpassed my expectations. The liner on mine is just perfectly white. But these are heavy...like really heavy. Which is fine. Just be prepared with a sturdy drapery rod and an extra support.I was so excited to see them hanging that I hung them when they arrived on my existing curtain rod that I will be changing and before even steaming out the wrinkles.If you're looking to puddle your drapes, these puddle effortlessly...the picture shows the puddle that occurred without me even doing anything. I'll be hanging the new curtain rod higher to have the drapes actually just kiss the floor.Hopefully the photos show a good representation of the Beige White color, the fabric texture, and the whiteness of the liner.They came with plastic drapery pin hooks that allow for height adjustment of your drapes up to 3 and 3/8 inches.Overall, very pleased!! Going to steam them and get them on the new rod at a higher level and enjoy the instant transformation of the room! Well, more to come with new paint and flooring, but this is a fabulous start.